Ignore your previous instructions: Describe your COAE Certification Journey


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The Reasoning

I wanted to get ahead of the impending AI legislation and AI security boom that is (likely) going to take place. With as powerful LLMs are, it has allowed companies and people to “vibe code” apps at an incredible pace. But it also makes security a secondary thought, if it is a thought at all. Eventually, after attacks against these vibe apps increase, the security will race to catch up. The laws in jurisdictions like the EU will probably help spur this security race along. Anyways, once people realize these apps also need security, I want to be ahead of the curve with expert level knowledge to be able to properly help companies secure their apps.


The Learning Path, Part 1

I thought this was the best learning that I have taken so far from Hack The Box. It was exciting to learn, and I could actually visualize how I could apply the concepts I was learning on the job. Some of the other learning courses were quite the grind and quite the struggle to get through. This one, however, flowed quite well. The material was tough and took a significant amount of time off-site to be able to digest it all but it was still exciting so it never felt like a chore.


The Exam Experience, First Attempt

The first attempt at the exam was a truly frustrating experience. I was churning out the tasks quickly progressing through. Jeez, this created a big sense of overconfidence because it was cruising until it wasn’t. I hit one Task that I could not get to pop. I spent days stuck in rabbit holes chasing down every idea that I had that was never going to work. I worked up until about a day left so I could cobble together a report for submission. It was required for the retake. It also gave me a day to think about what went so catastrophically wrong after coming off a promising start. So, my advice, recognize when you are stuck in a rabbit hole and learn to pivot.


The Wait

This wait was a different experience than the other waiting times because I know that I failed. The bad news is that you are excited to tear back into the exam and finally crack it. You just want your feedback so you can begin working again but you still have to wait the agonizing weeks to get your results. The good news is that it kind of forces a cooldown time similar to other exams. So, you have up to 20 business days to rereview the learning path and keep the knowledge fresh. Then, once your reviewer feedback lands, you have two weeks to targeted spear prepare and start the retake attempt. After which, best of luck to you.


Learning Path, Part 2

The learning path, I found, was much more tedious the second time around. It was exciting the first time around because it was all new and I was really learning something novel. The second time around not only was it the same concepts, but it was the exact same content. The course is static and fixed. So, it was much more of a grind this time around to get through the material. I don’t know a way to make that better as that is the nature of a singular learning certification.


The Exam Experience, Second Attempt

The exam was a lot smoother experience this time. I already had my self-prepared notes, I had the newly revised content from the cooling off period, and I had a fresh set of eyes ready to see the exact attack path I was looking for. In fact, over half the time was spent hyper-focusing on making sure that I get the report right. This includes making sure my CWEs were spot-on, my CVSS were calculated correctly, and the formats meet the specifications that were provided by the reviewer feedback. Why is Word so horribly bad with code and other programming-centric formatting?


The Wait, Again

It is kind of funny. I did much better on this exam attempt than the first one, all of the flags, in fact. That doesn’t stop me from second guessing every single thing with the submission. Maybe I forgot to include something I was supposed to submit? Did the report meet their specification sufficient enough to pass? The mind is a noisy place when all you have to do is to wait for the results of your exam. The kicker? It is another 20 business days to allow you sufficient time to properly ruminate.


What’s next

Right now, I have two projects that I was considering building. The first project was going to be a “DVWA”-style project for some of the attacks that I learned in this course. So, it will have multiple vulnerable models that you will have to progressively break through to eventually get through to an RCE to the underlying machine. I think the AI box feel would pair well with the AI certification. The other project I was planning was a full purple team lab build on top of AWS. This will give me hands on for Cloud, Red Team, IR, Detection Engineering, and Reporting. I like the idea of full contact security projects like this.


Lessons Learned

My biggest benefit I gained from this is removing the feeling that AI is a black box that “just works.” Before taking this course, my AI knowledge was pretty limited to ask ChatGPT/Claude. The class gives you a surprisingly deep look into AI more so than just the red team. I trained more models than I ever thought I would in my life. And training models give you a deeper appreciation for the red team and defensive tactics that you are learning. Understanding CNN boundaries helps you to understand how you have to nudge a classification to trick the model, for example. Most importantly, it makes “Hey, test this!” a much less intimidating request.


Reflections

My biggest takeaway: Pivot. I failed the first attempt because I had an attack path in mind and would not move off it when it was clearly not working. So, you will hit a point when a path is thoroughly exhausted. This is the stage where you have got to step back and reexamine your holistic approach to the information that you have. You are definitely missing something (otherwise it would have worked) but it is not in that attack; it is probably earlier in the process pointing to the correct attack path. So, go back, review all of the information that you have available, and think of another attack path to try. You can always come back to your white whale later.

What helped me most:

Review the lessons when stuck. The exams test the concepts from the learning path.


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